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And you know, logically, it makes perfect sense. It's not as if I'm wearing the same pants size as I did 10 years ago (sadly), why would I be wearing the same bra size? But I just didn't really see it. The secret of a bra ninja is that they don't look at size. I don't think my lady asked me once what my bra size was. She just eyeballed me and brought me bras that she thought would fit, regardless of their size. Probably a good thing to do with any type of clothes!

Monday, August 24, 2009 at 8:20 PM | Registered CommenterChristina

Just a word in defense of skinny jeans. They are the very last thing I ever expected to look good on me! I figured I'd sooner go to church in a swimsuit than wear a pair of skinny jeans. But at my first CAbi party, where people freely try on sample items, I was persuaded to try on a pair in black, and everyone told me they looked great. Also, because I like the look of leggings and tights but hadn't worn them for fear they were not age appropriate, the consultant told me that skinny jeans are the "mature" woman's leggings. Sooooooooooooo I bought a pair and love them. Who woulda thunk??? I always wear them with tunic-length tops, and I even like them tucked into boots. Of course, I get few occasions to wear them, but they're definitely worth having for just the right casual occasion.

Monday, August 24, 2009 at 10:38 PM | Registered CommenterMsG

My problems with skinny jeans are purely based in jealousy. I'm too "curvy" (to use a euphemism) to wear anything like them without looking dead ridiculous. I want to be on trend too! But alas, no. Not THAT trend, anyway.

Monday, August 24, 2009 at 10:59 PM | Registered CommenterChristina

I know what you mean, Christina. The problem with trends is that they don't look good on everyone, and it's the smart people who know which ones do and don't look good on them. I'm jealous of people who can wear those ultra-high heels because they look so darned sexy. But not for me in this lifetime. Sigh!

Monday, August 24, 2009 at 11:19 PM | Registered CommenterMsG

OK...I am just going to jump in! I am loving all your comments and advice. You all sound so beautifully fashionable. I guess I am the only jeans girl. I love them. I usually dress like a casual Sheryl Crow, Halle Berry. Kind of like 'Susan' on Desp. HW. I also like khakis' and cords in the winter and fall. Always cute top and lots of turtlenecks in the winter. Lots of fun jackets and coats. Love scarves and brooches. I have a nice collection of earrings, but usually wear mid-size gold or silver hoops. With my husbands career, we do have dress up events/trips. That can take weeks of scouting for outfits. I think you're either on or totally off. I don't know if its hair, make-up, the stores mirrors or what. Who knows? Some of my favorite stores...Gap, Banana R, J Crew, Black/White, Nordstrom, Macys, Ann Taylor. Here's a tip on jeans. When you are trying them on take back as many of your size as possible. I have taken all before. They will all fit differently. This is a 'do alone' shopping experience. No one has patience for this! Buy them a little tight. I promise they will stretch out. As Christina would say, you want a little junk in the trunk! No saggie bottom Mom jeans.
If I had their checkbook and calendar of events, I would dress like Michelle Obama, Carla Bruni and Princess Letizia of Asturias. I think they look lovely.
I think I need a bra ninja....but, I'm scared. ;)

Tuesday, August 25, 2009 at 12:36 AM | Registered Commenterann#1

Don't fear the ninja!

Seriously though, I may have just run into a particularly no-nonsense lady. But I didn't mind; I felt like I was in good hands...so to speak! I am sure that at Nordstrom and other department stores they aren't actually handling the goods like they were at this particular bra boutique.

Tuesday, August 25, 2009 at 4:50 PM | Registered CommenterChristina

I had a bra fitting done awhile back now at a local department store. I've always been fairly modest, so I had to work up the courage to go in there and change bras in front of this total stranger. But it was worth it because, although she confirmed that I'd been wearing the correct size all along, she taught me a lot about fit and helped me select a style and brand that works well. For example, I had always thought that if a bra fit when fastened in the last set of hooks, that meant it was too small. But the ninja told me that bras should fit that way when new and that the only reason for the other two sets of hooks is to keep the bra snug as it stretches with wear and washing. Who knew? In my case, there was no "handling" since--alas!--I really don't have a lot that can be pushed and pulled and lifted; it pretty much stays in one spot. So go for it, Ann! I don't think you'll be sorry.

When we're finished with bras, I'd still like some tips on no-line panties.

Tuesday, August 25, 2009 at 5:38 PM | Registered CommenterMsG

Hahaha LOL...OK, I will work up the courage, maybe a glass of wine with lunch and go meet the Ninja!

I forgot to mention I also like the monochromatic look. I have two in black and one in cream, brown and grey. I guess that is my go to look when jeans are not appropriate. I am on the small side. 5'4, sz 4. I feel like wearing all one color gives me some height.

Tuesday, August 25, 2009 at 5:51 PM | Registered Commenterann#1

Ann, I was going to suggest the glass of wine! :-)

Tuesday, August 25, 2009 at 5:56 PM | Registered CommenterMsG

I need advice on no line panties. I can't/won't wear a thong. Help.

Tuesday, August 25, 2009 at 10:17 PM | Registered CommenterBevi

Oh shoot. That was going to be my suggestion. Not that thongs are my favorite thing.

Maybe a boy-cut short might be good? I wonder if Spanx offers anything for this. They seem to be so good with foundation garments overall.

Tuesday, August 25, 2009 at 10:50 PM | Registered CommenterChristina

I've reluctanctly tried a few thongs, but then I started noticing both on myself and on others that thongs also show lines. So that was when I gave up trying, because why should I go through life with a permanent wedgie if I'm still going to have lines?!!!

I have a few pairs of a Spanx-type panty by Hanes. They're about 1/4 the price of Spanx, more comfortable because they're slightly less constricting, and they're not quite as hot. They work great, but I don't like wearing them every single day. I bought the boy shorts from Soma, and they're great under some things. I have resorted to wearing pantyhose under slacks when absolutely nothing else worked, but that's also a little on the warm side.

Still hoping for the magic solution!

Tuesday, August 25, 2009 at 10:57 PM | Registered CommenterMsG


This is a great idea for a thread. I have been away for a few days and it’s so interesting to come back and read about everyone’s tastes and preferences and styles.

It also feels like describing my own will be a little challenging. As much as I like clothes, shopping and dressing, I don't think I've ever really articulated it before.

I’m eager to get back tomorrow when I will have more time to read everything and give it a try.

Tuesday, August 25, 2009 at 11:48 PM | Registered Commenteraurora

Ok - so no wedgie for me - I tried it and can't cope - so will try the boy shorts and also the Hanes.
I have something like the Hanes, but they are so hot in the summer.

I do wear panty hose when I wear slacks.

I wear underpants under my yoga pants - simply don't care what the other yogis think about that - I try to stay in the back of the room so as not to offend!

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 12:55 PM | Registered CommenterBevi

The Hanes things are in the hosiery department, and they're called Go Figure.

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 1:06 PM | Registered CommenterMsG

I did a huge post here yesterday that obviously got lost. Grrrrrr. But you guys are covering all my points about bra's and pants so I resist the urge to rant and rave.

I wear a Triumph bra for day - it's like scaffolding. I can leave the room in a hurry and come back - my breasts are still where I left them. They DO NOT MOVE. It's wonderful. For sports (well, what consitutes sports in my life, i.e. moving at speed towards a "SALE!" sign), I wear a bra that I think Oprah recommends. Can't remember the name but it's the mutt's nuts when it comes to being able to do anything if you have a large/larger bust. It's like a crop top and it acts like a vice.

Always beige under white. Always black under dark.

Yeah the seamless shorts are really good, I like them and have a lot of 'em. Thongs I learned to live with when I modelled and really are all I can wear with trousers now. The sausage casing control pants are good for dresses and skirts, but only if they don't have that stupid tight band on the thigh. It's supposed to be invisible underwear and then they put a massive ROLL right in the middle of your leg. It makes the unconditioned thigh look like a suet pudding!!! Tchah!

I think the best ones are the ones that go from chest to knee. Otherwise the old muffin top phenomena rolls in over the waistband.

The ones I wore at my wedding were great. Until I sat down after my triumphant entrance and the left leg rolled up under my frock. I was wondering if I should just haul my skirts up and yank it back down again, seeing as the only person who could've seen the details was our vicar, but I decided not to. You can see the roll in one of the photo's outside the church!! So much for invisible underwear!!!!

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 1:37 PM | Registered CommenterPosh Tater

Here's another question for all of you fashion-conscious ladies. Are open-toed shoes or strappy sandals appropriate for work? I don't wear them to work because it never struck me as a very professional look, but am I just being old-fashioned (as usual :-)?

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 1:54 PM | Registered CommenterMsG

I don't think a peep toe is bad, but I am not sure about the strappy sandals. I'm sure it probably depends on your workplace's environment (whether it is laid back or pretty strict).

The pantyline issue. I think Victoria Secret has some panties that are seamless, I don't have any, but they look like they would do the trick. I am not sure if you can get them other places.

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 1:59 PM | Registered CommenterNyon

I think there's a balance to be struck, sure, but I've had bosses that wore strappy sandals so, you know, if the bosses are doing it, then I'M doing it!!! Definitely no to stiletto heeled, ribbons up the ankle, gladiator platforms, glittery butterflies etc! But, a smart summer open toe or sandal in a neutral colour, with a smart strap or two... why not? I think the key is that the shoe/sandal is in good, clean, smart condition and looks perfect with your outfit - and that your feet look tiptop. If all those criteria are met, then no-one can complain.

By the way, I've written a few work dress codes and all they say is no flipflops or sports shoes or inappropriately high heels.

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Yeah, seamless shorts and thongs are the ones that can be seen least. And while strings can be uncomfortable a lot of the seamless thongs are surprisingly comfortable. Worth a try anyway. I always buy in a size too large, that helps. They don't dig in and you don't have a "Free wedgie! Just add crack!" effect either. Nothing worse than standing at the bus stop trying to hitch the damn thing OUT in front of twelve people you never met before. Or worse, MET before.

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 2:04 PM | Registered CommenterPosh Tater

I've tried those VS panties and liked them at first but then not so much. Something which people often forget is that lines are caused not just by the bulk of the undergarment itself but by the way it pushes in the skin (and subcutaneous FAT) ever so slightly. Therefore, any panty that cuts across the middle of the abdomen (such as a bikini style) creates a line across the front of a dress. A woman I work with dresses almost exclusively in fitted dresses; and I know that she wears bikini-style panties underneath because when she stands to speak to the group, her belly hangs over the top band of the panties and does a little jiggle. OMG, all of this talk is making a nun's habit look very appealing!!! :-)

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 2:51 PM | Registered CommenterMsG

OMG, MsG. Are you two friendly, well friendly enough that you could tell her that is not a good look without her getting offended?

Maybe you should do like Posh says and get them a size up. That way they won't be tight in those areas.

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 4:11 PM | Registered CommenterNyon

Nyon, unfortunately, no.

And I'm really not even talking about being too tight. It's just that, unless they're so loose they would fall off, they're going to make just the very slightest indentation in the skin, and that's another line. :-(

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 5:10 PM | Registered CommenterMsG

"I wear a Triumph bra for day - it's like scaffolding. I can leave the room in a hurry and come back - my breasts are still where I left them. They DO NOT MOVE. "

Ahahahahaha! Posh, you are hilarious!

I think that strappy sandals and such depend on one's workplace. In my profession, I could wear those types of shoes, jeans, and other casual clothes and not get a second glance. But some of my friends who work for law firms or banks can't go without hose. And other friends of mine who are school teachers might be allowed to wear them, but just wouldn't because they're not conducive for standing on your feet all day.

Posh is reeeally making me think it's time to get a pedicure. I have neglected my toesies this summer.

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 8:08 PM | Registered CommenterChristina

Yes, toesies are important. I always feel that if my hair, fingernails, and toenails look good, I'm good to go.

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 8:31 PM | Registered CommenterMsG

I am like that about my hair. I feel as long as my hair is done, I can go out in sweats and I still look good. If my hair is not done, I don't really want to go anywhere. One time I got in the shower and my brother did not cut the shower head off, so my hair got wet. I literally cried and yes I was grown, I could have beat him up that day. My mom, brother, and sister were laughing at me and they still talk about it. I learned my lesson that day (don't put head directly under shower) and if it happened again I don't think I would act like that
(hopefully;-)

Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 9:27 PM | Registered CommenterNyon